This is the chat log from our workshop "Cell Phone Digital Storytelling" at ITSC 2009 in Portland, Oregon, on 16 Feb 2009.
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bob: hello
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Claire Hertz: Good Morning
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readerdiane: Good morning all
bob: hello
clschultz: good morning all!
Super Teacher: Good Morning!!
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JennG: Glas to be here
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JennG: Glad, but need more coffee
Super Teacher: I have never Googled myself...
Claire Hertz: I brought a BIG cup
Claire Hertz: I set up a google alert for my name as well
Super Teacher: How do you set up a google alert?
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readerdiane: Olympus WS110 voice recorder $58
Super Teacher: They would get lost, broken, stolen...
Claire Hertz: www.google.com/alerts
Claire Hertz: go to the site, enter whatever you want to be alerted on, and it will show up in your e-mail
Claire Hertz: it helps me keep track of when I get quoted in the Oregonian in my job at Beaverton
JennG: Love the LENS idea
readerdiane: If the kids value what they are doing then they will be careful.
Lori: Testing to see if I am still here
darek: there you are ---->
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Wesley: OK, let's respond now with what we thought
Claire Hertz: you're sitting right next to me Lori...I think you're still here - pretty in green!
clschultz: I think that this would be amazing to watch 50 years from now.
bob: voice in the story
readerdiane: She has a very strong voice
Claire Hertz: The emotion came through her voice made the video
Claire Hertz: would not have heard the emotion on paper
Lori: A great chance to share for students that are overwhelmed when they think of having to write - plus knowing it will be recorded they will take more time and effort
darek: I'd like to do a video fro my kids to watch while they are with the sub tomorrow.
Super Teacher: Any time you give the kids a chance to talk they love it. I like the idea af them "chatting" about things on line but still being in class.
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Claire Hertz: good morning Pia
dgrice: Personal Stories add emotion as well as information. Communcates so much more and more memorable. Examples: http://thestory.org/
Pia Alliende: hello
darek: I find the chatting ditracting myself... it's hard to listen to the speaker.... imo
readerdiane: How far we have to go...
Claire Hertz: i enjoy multitasking - keeps me engaged
bob: growing up in the 50s in s. california i never saw this
Super Teacher: I would have to be in the same chat room with my kids so I could look at my monitor and see if they were listening or chatting
readerdiane: I didn't see it in Mass but met up with it in Maryland for sure
Wesley: Renee was a digital witness
Claire Hertz: the chatting will allow teachers to hear from voices that they may not hear from otherwise
Super Teacher: Great point!
darek: certainly.... the shy girl in the back...
Claire Hertz: when I was in school - too shy to speak out loud - I think I would have typed my thoughts because I had time to think them through before sending them
readerdiane: first person point of view
readerdiane: primary resources
Claire Hertz: digital witness - my kids will hear the stories
Super Teacher: My husband just got back from Iraq 3 years ago, he served 2 terms
dgrice: Getting stories from family, grandparents, etc. Get digital personal accounts before it's too late.
darek: what about the oral tradition? I'd rather have my kid sit in front of me and let me tell them a story then have them watch it on a computer...
readerdiane: But you can record so that you have it later
Claire Hertz: the digital doesn't ever replace the live
Claire Hertz: need both
dgrice: http://storychasers.org
Claire Hertz: Archive the history - locally
Claire Hertz: http://handouts.wesfryer.com/cellphones Handouts for this session
Super Teacher: I don't think you can be completely digital. There HAS to be actual conversation too (esp. for the girls in class :-)
Lori: inteviewing school board members - story chase what is happening in our communities
readerdiane: You have the conversations around & about the story
dgrice: http://lc.celebrateoklahoma.us/video
darek: if you use Firefox, you can install adblockers
Claire Hertz: Can register a Ning Site with it's own URL so it is not blocked in school districts
Claire Hertz: Wow...I wish I had thought of that - so simple - and resolves a HUGE problem
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badiettrich: I'm back
Claire Hertz: wb badiettrich
Lori: Super Teacher tell your husband thank you!
Super Teacher: What site are these videos on?
readerdiane: 2 sites-Oklahoma voices & Wes's wiki
darek: http://lc.celebrateoklahoma.us/video
Super Teacher: I will. Thank YOU for appreciating his service! A lot of people don't and it is sad.
Claire Hertz: Amazing photos of duststorms - dwarfing the houses
readerdiane: The visuals tell so much more than the history books-voices tell emotions also.
Wesley: Technical responses to the video "The Dirty Thirties" by Jeanette Hale
Wesley: http://lc.celebrateoklahoma.us/video/the-dirty-thirties
darek: this would go well with the Grapes of Wrath
Wesley: @Super Teacher I agree totally about the need for F2F conversations. There are SO many discussions that we can and should have about the issues which this raises, and many of those are NOT technical
Wesley: might need more movement
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Wesley: could integrate more music and lyrics
Wesley: zooms might be distracted
darek: yaya it's working now!
badiettrich: nice transitions
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Claire Hertz: yeah - it's back!
darek: I bet the wireless at the Hilton is better :)
Super Teacher: My kids would LOVE this!
Lori: hmmm I don't think anywhere would be better
Claire Hertz: lol...darek - this just allows us to show our backup plans
Super Teacher: Yes it is better next door...
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readerdiane: What are we trying to communicate?
Super Teacher: Creativity with technology?
darek: the thing that I have trouble with is that many of my students don't have computers or internet at home. Some of my kids don't have electricity or plumbing. I work in the middle of the woods.
Wesley: student engagement has a lot to do with background knowledge they have
Wesley: @derek do your kids have cell phone connectivity?
Super Teacher: I would (most likely) just use this at school and have my class work on it there. Even if there is only a few kiddos without tech at home it creates an uneven plain.
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Claire Hertz: media saturated society - students come with media experiences - how do we make them more media saavy?
darek: some of them do....
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badiettrich: welcome
Lori: Derek I do too - but you would be suprised at what they know and can do - a lot of my students hang out in the public library on the computers
Claire Hertz: the phots were needed to show how massive the duststorms were compared to the smallness of the houses
readerdiane: my students love the music-it's very important.
readerdiane: primary sources are so important
Lori: the best way to learn history is from those who lived history - primary sources
Claire Hertz: document the primary sources - i remember a paper I did in high school where I interviewed a grandmother in the community that remembered the local gold rush
darek: for the classroom, pandora.com is the greatest place to get free music to play in the classroom. Students can tell you a band name, you type it in and it plays music for free. It is not censored though so be warned about that.
Claire Hertz: the story was much more interesting hearing directly from someone that experienced the changes that happened in the small town that was inundated with gold miners
Super Teacher: I use pandora in my room and love it!
Pia Alliende: in some district pandora is filtered :-(
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badiettrich: Photo Story does the pictures, motions and creates the music and it's free from Microsoft.
readerdiane: it sucks up bandwidth though
badiettrich: I have not had a problem with bandwidth and Photo Story.
readerdiane: pandora takes bandwidth
darek: everything does.
dgrice: wont' be long before kids are coming to school with their own handheld (cellphone) devices with web, video, multimedia capabilities - that completely bypass the schools' internet filter and firewall.
Claire Hertz: storytelling makes it interesting
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Claire Hertz: think of how many stories Sir Ken used in our keynote yesterday
darek: I want a "Sir" in front of my name dangit!
darek: I bet my students would pay attention!
Claire Hertz: darek - i think it's something you're going to have to earn
Super Teacher: I think he looks like Letterman :-)
Lori: Yes Sir Darek you can have it!
badiettrich: I want a "sir " in front of my name too......
darek: sweet!
Wesley: Ways to get a picture off your phone?
Claire Hertz: using a cord to attach to your laptop
Claire Hertz: paying a fee through your cell phone service
readerdiane: direct connection to laptop with cord
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sir darek: WEEE!! that's fun
Wesley: use a cable to connect your phone to the computer
Claire Hertz: ask the kids to upload the photo to the computer
sir darek: sometimes all the phones want you to install their own goofy software
Super Teacher: Sir Darek, good thing you are already at a "round" table!
Claire Hertz: more navigational intheir learning style
Lori: Welcome Sir Darek to us lowly ones
sir darek: @ST BOOOOOO!
Wesley: take out the SD card
dgrice: send MMS message w/picture attachment to your e-mail account
sir darek: beats my ratnest of chords in my bottom drawer!
Claire Hertz: carry an adaptor kit
readerdiane: cables to go
Wesley: Bluetooth images
sir darek: I notice that Chatzy does NOT have spellcheck :(
Claire Hertz: mac - utilities - bluetooth file exchange - run the program - make it discoverable - within 30 feet
Wesley: upload directly to Flickr via email
Claire Hertz: make the photos private until you approve them
Super Teacher: Woa! How did he zoom?
Claire Hertz: change privacy settings on flickr
Claire Hertz: setup separate flickr account that is private and then you can post to the live account to the world
sir darek: is Flickr free?
Claire Hertz: this is called the turn in account for students
Claire Hertz: yes it's free
dgrice: OPTION-APPLE to zoom in. OPTION-APPLE - (minus) to zoom out.
dgrice: Plus ( ) to zoom in.
Super Teacher: Is Flikr free for the kids when they send theri pics? Is there still a charge from the cell company?
Super Teacher: Oh, I only have a lowly Dell...
Claire Hertz: put flickr address in address book and send photo directly to flickr
sir darek: I'm sure they have to have data packages with their cellphones
sir darek: some charge by the kb
sir darek: or you can get unlimited data packages but they cost a bunch
Claire Hertz: use your students as resources - they will be quicker on uploading a picture than it takes for you to figure it out
sir darek: it's Mt. Hood!
Wesley: what does publishing in a Web 2.0 world mean?
readerdiane: can be accessed from anywhere
Claire Hertz: Voicethread - use to publish in a Web 2.0 world
Claire Hertz: anytime, anywhere, two way interaction on the web
sir darek: I miss the interent when it was just grey backgrounds and text :(
Claire Hertz: Voicethread gives a free account to educators
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Claire Hertz: Moderation issue - Voicthread can be private and shared specifically with students and parents
readerdiane: Education account
readerdiane: Education account
Claire Hertz: Digital storytelling ties to the writing process - students write out their scripts to be posted on their project
sir darek: I need a haircut!
readerdiane: the key is storyboarding ahead of time
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Claire Hertz: 3 steps to making a voicethread - upload photos, make comments, share it
Claire Hertz: Can put a link right inside the picture on Voicethread
Claire Hertz: hyperlinked writing is the most powerful form of writing
dgrice: "Hyperlinked writing is the most powerful form of writing."
Claire Hertz: empowers the reader to go deeper and learn more as they read
Lori: talk to students about hyperlinking the responsibility they have to link to it
dgrice: "with great power comes great responsibility"
sir darek: thank you Spiderman's uncle!
Claire Hertz: can upload voice recorded by cell phone
Super Teacher: Sorry, don't get it...?
Claire Hertz: Voicethread calls the person on their cell phone, the person will answer, and then it is like leaving a voice mail "comment"
sir darek: the website will call you and anything you say will be posted as a coment.
sir darek: pretty trippy!
Claire Hertz: then it is sent directly to Voicethread page tied directly to the photo
dgrice: Uploading comment to voicethread via cell phone
Claire Hertz: gives students time to reflect with thought before posting - can post from home later in the evening
Lori: gab cast channel
Claire Hertz: gabcast.com
Claire Hertz: can get 100 mb free gabcast channel
Claire Hertz: Channel password 1234
Claire Hertz: New channel created
Claire Hertz: ITSC 2009
Wesley: To record call 1.888.887.3127
Wesley: channel is 27785 - password 1234
sir darek: What? Standards are your GOD!
Claire Hertz: Respond to the posting from Jennifer - how can we be creative in our schools
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sir darek: that voice stream thing is pretty rock and roll!
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sir darek: I think I could use the voice stream thing as a part of my reader responce journal stuff. Instead of writing down their thoughts on paper after they read a chapter, they could call and record their comments.
sir darek: I think that would be BA
Wesley: Our Gabcast channel for ITSC 2009: http://www.gabcast.com/index.php?a=episodes&id=27785
sir darek: Does Voicethread have the same capabilities to call in and record responses or do they need to do it with a computer?
sir darek: I think Voicethread is much prettiet than gabcast but like that gabcast eliminates the need to have a computer
Lori: Yes Sir I think so
readerdiane: Voicethread allows 3 minutes & then you pay
sir darek: ahhh....
bob: good to know
sir darek: I'll give up pretty for free!
Wesley: Lynell Burmark says the brain processes an image 60,000 times faster than text
Wesley: http://www.lynellburmark.org/
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Wesley: Questions at this point?
readerdiane: How do we get the audio to the Voice Thread?
Wesley: how do you incorporate these tools into your classroom?
Wesley: pricing for this?
Wesley: how do we get our Gabcast into voicethread?
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Claire Hertz: Ask three than ask me - students seeing themselves as resources before going to the teacher for help
sir darek: wait... where's that handout link he just showed
Super Teacher: Which program would you recommend that a classroom teacher purchase? Phone recordings are limited. So, is that for the lifetime of your account or for the month...etc.?
JennG: http://handouts.wesfryer.com/cellphones
Claire Hertz: can use a land line - does not have to be a cell phone
sir darek: thanks :)
JennG: No purchase necessary. Use the free versions!
Claire Hertz: Can download gabcast recording when playing as an mp3 file
Claire Hertz: download file - right click - control click on mac - save link as - create a new audio folder - and save
bob: i was able to upload to my msn... cool
readerdiane: I have ordered the book already this morning.
sir darek: SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW CONNECTION
sir darek: still waiting for the confirmation email? Anyone recieved theirs yet?
Lori: I have mine
Claire Hertz: Grandmother's are comfortable using the telephone - great way to get them involved - especially when a student is there to hand them the phone
Wesley: http://www.howeschools.org
Wesley: http://www.howeschools.org
Lori: Feel free to call mine use channel 27789 - Password 1234 and tell me about your favorite vacation
readerdiane: I had to use my gmail-school must have it blocked
Claire Hertz: Students don't have to use their names - don't have to be published - ok to simply hear their voice
Claire Hertz: yabbit teachers - yeah, but we can't...find ways to do it instead of reasons you can't do it
Claire Hertz: if cell phones aren't allowed at school have them call in from home as homework
readerdiane: It is getting slower & slower-like mud
Claire Hertz: Gabcast can be used to record a conference call from schools in two differenct countries
Claire Hertz: Don't talk about the tool, talk about what you can do now that you couldn't do before
Claire Hertz: c
Wesley: Darren Kuropatwa's blog: http://adifference.blogspot.com/
Claire Hertz: Could use Gabcast as an interview tool - call in together as a conference call - and record and post
Claire Hertz: Students get to learn about time zones - China - never in school at the same time of day - instead do a delayed audio conference using Voicethread
Claire Hertz: http://ed.voicethread.com
Claire Hertz: Voicethread has accountability - You Tube does not - teachers have accounts and students have child accounts - have accountability to the teachers
Claire Hertz: Costs a fee
Wesley: http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2009/02/14/howe-oklahoma-students-lead-virtual-field-trip-at-fort-smith-arkansas/
Claire Hertz: Can also get an educator account for free - two separate resources
Claire Hertz: KC3 Project - Beyond the Virtual Fieldtrip and the Collaborative Project
Claire Hertz: ponsored by Trandberg and CILC Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration
Claire Hertz: 2008 KC3 Project is on TeacherTube http://www.teachertube.com
Claire Hertz: http://k12onlineconference.org
Wesley: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=279
Super Teacher: When you click "Call Details" on gabcast it shows caller ID. Is this information available to all viewers of just the creator of the account? Also, how do you delete recordings once they are posted?
sir darek: channel number: 27800 channel password: 1212
sir darek: that's my test gabcasty thingy
sir darek: We should also investigate the power of dancing in the classroom!
readerdiane: Create the structure and get out of their way-I like it, but I am a planner too.
sir darek: well you can plan it, but also you should be flexible to let things move in directions that you didn't plan. I see a lot of teachers who try to control and direct everything. Sometimes the best learning opportunities pop up and you can't ignore them to make sure you stay on the plan.
readerdiane: Project based allows the students choices but it usually is within a framework.
Claire Hertz: ok...what kind of dancing do you do Sir Darek?
Claire Hertz: I'm partial to waltz and west coast swing
sir darek: I like a little krumping
Super Teacher: How can you search for someone elses chanel on gabcast? I tried putting in the chanel# and it won't come up.
sir darek: I think maybe if there isn't any content in the channel yet it won't show? I honestly don't know. My channel is shown in the Mychannel tab, but when I search for it it says no results
Claire Hertz: Homework today - return to our voicethread - reflect on third slide - with text, audio or gabcast and Wesley will upload
sir darek: I'll call it and see if once it has content it is searchable...
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Wesley: Great job everyone! Please remember to share your takeaways from this workshop on slide 3 of this VoiceThread! http://voicethread.com/share/352546/
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